'Legal highs' set to be banned

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  1. Sweeney

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    "But so far, the drug has been established as a cause of death in only one case in England, that of John Stirling Smith.

    On Thursday, a coroner in Brighton said Mr Stirling Smith, who was 46 and had underlying health problems, died after after "injecting mephedrone repeatedly". "


    Made me laugh.
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    :lol: injecting mcat
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    yeah it is to all extents and purposes the same.

    tastes nasty as fuck though
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    He's definately keen.
  6. BRID

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    This gets done all the time. The public get sold on basically LIES, and then those lies are quietly retracted a little while later, after the laws have been passed. - And nobody gives a shit.
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    You can't honestly think that mcat should not have been banned? Whether or not it was linked to those deaths is irrelevant. All drugs should be tested before they are used for public consumption.

    As for the lies part, you can blame the media for that - its basic jumped up over the top tabloid journalism
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    They were never going to be.

    Call the odds of dying from mephedrone 1 in 1000000 or whatever. The odds of two people dying at the exact same time from it are going to be ridiculous. Unless it's tainted with something else, in which case it isn't mephedrone responsible.
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    I honestly think it shouldn't have been, was alcohol ever 'tested'
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    how many of the hundreds of thousands of chemical compounds in daily use have been tested (alone and in combination) do you imagine?
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    You cant rewrite history. Every new entity that will come into contact with a human is tested, and most likely adverse combinations assessed.

    Yes there are substances that have not been subject to full testing, but by default there are years worth of data to support their use.
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    'Current rules requiring the production of safety data for man-made chemicals were only introduced in 1981 - this means that about 3,000 now used daily across the European Union might never have been tested.
    These include musks and perfumes added to household products, flame retardants in furniture and plastic softeners used in PVC and toys.
    Safety data is only available for 14% of the most produced chemicals in Europe'

    there is no such thing as safe. most drugs in common use have harmful side effects. They are used because the benefits outweigh the harms. It's just that having fun or a life changing experience is never seen as a benefit, so the harms, however small, will always outdo the benefits of any recreational drug in the mind of the nanny state.

    I didn't like mephedrone but I don't see why it should have been banned. And Methylone was banned simply because it sounded like Mephedrone and was sold in the same shops. I have never seen any evidence of any harms associated with it and there was a lot to be said for being able to buy something legally with a reasonable certainty that it wasn't adulterated.
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    If only
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    The stuff was sold as plant food - how well do you think the plant food industry is regulated? The raw materials used to make it would not be subject to the normal controls of the pharmaceutical industry and for all you know could easily be contaminated with chemicals, bioburden or even worse endotoxin.

    Drugs are not as simple as you seem to think
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    I never said they were simple, only that many substances in your environment have not been tested but are not banned. And that legally obtained substances are far more likely than illegal ones to be pure.
    I am also not saying that they were 'safe'. nothing is. Aspirin can and does kill people, as do all other commonly prescribed drugs. Just such a few that it is seen as an acceptable risk.
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    I do think it should have been banned. It was minging. Tried it a few times and it had none of the upsides (apparently) of 'real' (illegal) drugs, but most if not all of the down sides.

    Having said that, your response almost sounds like the government has a green light to basically LIE to us, in order to pass laws.

    Wonderful world we live in eh.

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