fucking animals.

http://www.open.ac.uk/

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A nar, I demand a cease fire

it not really, considering this thread has fuck all to do with religion

didn't you go there for the first time last year?
and if you are so much involved in the Israeli side how do you imagine your views can be balanced and non-partisan?
oh god I bit again

been several times since and got another 3 holidays booked this year.

I've never said my views are unbiased... I'm dati leumi (religious zionist)... I am the settler you branded racist.

What I'm stating is that I have the knowledge to speak on the subject with a degree of authority as I live the conflict... I dont read about it on the bbc.

There can be no justification for the slaughter in Jerusalem or the one occurring on a much larger scale in Gaza.

For the first time in years we agree on both counts.

However I think we probably have a difference of opinion as to who is responsible for the later.

1940s: World stands by whilst slaughter of Jews occurs because 'it doesn't affect them'.
2000s: Jew asks world to stand by whilst slaughter occurs because 'it doesn't affect us'?

On Baruch Goldstein:

"At his funeral, Rabbi Yaacov Perrin told the mourners, “One million Arabs are not worth a Jewish fingernail.”"

"Rabbi Israel Ariel stated that, “The holy martyr Baruch Goldstein is from now on our intercessor in heaven.”"

Not at all, Israel invites the international media into its land - we want the world to see what goes on as we believe international exposure will ultimately assist peace in the region.

What we don't want is the west to engage in the new face face of anti-semitism; anti-zionism... Hamas & hizbullah play the western media like puppets, manipulating photographs, staging scenes and most tragically using the defenceless as shields.

I'm not suggesting for a minute that Israels hands are clean, tragic events occur in warzones... it saddens me that Israel has been responsible for some of this tragedy.

All I and any other Israeli asks is that you try to view the conflict from both sides of the story.

Where is Baruch Goldstein now?

In an Israeli prison... Israel is against terrorism - be it carried out by Jew or Muslim.

This is not directed at you Joe, but there is no point trying to converse in the conflict in the region with some Israelis (by this I mean young Israelis straight out of national service). I made the mistake of trying to discuss politics with Israelis at a psy party in Goa, and I did not expect the aggressive reaction I got. I did fear for my safety and I think that if it wasn't for the fact my girlfriend was with me, they would have kick the shit out of me. It is probably understandable considering the shit young Israeli men have to put up with growing up, hence why some escape to Goa and get fucked on drugs, which is fair play really.

the thing that wound me up about this thread was the title. The nazis were able to carry out the holocaust because they first characterised the Jews as vermin or animals........

Joe you sound like a brainwashed fanatic

Money and greed has caused far more wars than religon.

yeh and then there's roses. they have a lot to answer for.

The thing is there's absolutely no end in sight.

The israelis aren't budging on the land (god gave it them) and nor are the arabs (a different god gave it them).

Meanwhile the Israelis build bigger walls and apply more crippling sanctions, and the Arabs get bigger rockets and bigger suicide bombs that the Israelis have demonstrated time and again that they can't do a thing about.

I give it a few years before the rockets get sophisticated enough to start hitting Jerusalem and Tel Aviv.