How should UK respond?

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  1. Yosef Ha'Kohain

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    You're coming across as very ignorant here, Al Quaeda is a party that was a reaction to western imperialism... Before their opposition to western corruption/influence/dominance in their homelands there was no desire to destroy our world.

    Al Quaeda are no different from any other terrorist organisation, if you strip away the glamour and the bullshit their only real objective is to remove the west from the east... which is a reasonably just cause.

    LOL who do you think makes up the vast majority of sinn fein? The IRA.

    We negotiate with terrorists, they're just in suits now.

    We remove our military forces from their land for starters, the economical issues are something I dont have the answer for... but the strong western miliatry presence in the middle east is the main aggrevator and an unneeded aggrevator.
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    The cause was American (before 911 the republicans had stated they were going to sort Iraq)

    The war was American... remember the whole with or without you we're invading cafaffle?

    Al Quaeda is an organisation opposed to America, 911 was a retaliation to american troops on saudi land (and the whole exploitation thang)

    We were caught up in Americas mess and trapped in a war the electorate didn't want any part of...

    We may of played a minor role, but this is Americas mess.
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    ok.
  4. Amyl Nitrate

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    Call me naive or slow (please don't) but why would the attacks be related to the G8 summat as that suggestion has been passed around on many occassions today but i can not see why.

    Maybe i should stop posting on needless message boards (in respect to todays events) and read up on the news
  5. Yosef Ha'Kohain

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    There is more to the middle east than Israel :confused:

    I suggest you broaden your reading then :)
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    It is very probable that it was planned now for publicity - not to actually disrupt.

    You ste of bombs in the country thats hosting the G8 your going to attract a shit load of attention and install a lot of global fear
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    i think they are actually trying to force islam on many countries. just like christians did. i man look at africa, they have literaly invaded north east africa and they are spreading downwards and westwards. look at the state of darfur all the militia are islamic in faith.
  8. Mark

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    revenge .
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    do any of you actually know what al-qaeda want???

    they oppose foreign troops on saudi arabian soil. they have no other goals but will lend support to oppressed islamics elsewhere like palestine and chechnya if it aids their argument.

    they are terrorists just like the ira and until you small minded twats realise that we have to not only oppose terrorism, but to address our foreign policies too, then we will see more attacks for years to come.

    this will give blairs cronies an excuse for unnecessary id cards that infringe our rights in a free nation, thats not fighting terrorism.

    i feel for the poor people affected and had to deal with many scared people today but its no time for stop-gap solutions, its the perfect time to address the uk's stance in the modern world.
  10. Smog

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    what else would you call it??? thats the argument the terrorists will use.

    the defining point is that christians, jews, muslims and hindu's were all affected so it is not an attack on one race, it is an attack that affects everyone and therefore should make us stronger... whether it does or not remains to be seen.
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    i wouldn't expect a pill-munching cretin to understand.

    london is cosmopolitan, if you had seen and spoken to people affected you would realise this attack has affected many differing peoples, not just the english or the british.

    is that simple enough for you? :dunce:
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    :lol: :lol: :lol:

    my apologies. your posts just lead me to believe you're thick. :D

    do you know anything on this subject or are you spouting opinion? i have spent the last three years of my life studying the war on terror and feel very strongly on the matter.

    this is REVENGE on london, on the west. on our values. and it is timed perfectly when security is focused on g8. what else could you call it. think twice before you discount others views.

    oh and im not arguing. the only reason its not worth the finger effort is because you dont have the knowledge to back up your opinion and that reply proves it. :D
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    which statement is shit... elaborate. :D
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    :lol:

    like you know me. :D

    there you go, discounted your own argument by saying the revenge idea is rubbish... im sure you just agreed when you said "This is revenge on London!? It is indeed! Did i say it wasnt?"

    haha someone should have told your cousins/parents not to breed :D
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    lol i go off on one when i think i have a point... id like you to find anything recent where i have because most of the time i get sick of arguing now i've done it so much... asylum seekers, immigration, war on terror etc etc :lol:

    what i thought is that revenge is going to be a main reason behind the attacks if an islamic group is proven to be behind them, ive actually literally just read this on the bbc website and it says:

    Police said they were examining a claim on the website of a previously unknown group, the Secret Organisation Group of al-Qaeda of Jihad Organisation in Europe, saying it was behind the blast. The statement said the attacks were revenge for the "massacres" Britain was committing in Iraq and Afghanistan and that the country was now "burning with fear and panic". It warned Denmark and Italy they faced similar attacks if they did not withdraw their troops from the Middle East.

    revenge is a high priority and while most of us dont agree with the attacks we have to look at the causes to try and find a solution. another war/witch hunt wont do any good.

    these attacks are flawed as they aren't like 9/11 which struck deep into the heart of americans and the most of the civilised world as it was so symbolic. this is a sick disruption causing publicity stunt. and as i was saying before it affected all religions and races in london, not just one group, therefore its hard to see the reasoning as it wont change one single thing.

    anyway, this is probably the wrong time for silly board handbags... people have died :(
  16. Smog

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    where have i misunderstood? :lol:

    right... you disagreed with marks revenge comment... i agree with it, as does the supposed group that carried out the attacks... i haven't misunderstood at all, i've just disagreed with you! :p
  17. Smog

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    ah one of us has misinterpreted his comment... think he will have to resolve this one and clarify what he meant by revenge!

    anyway, as i said it was a revenge attack... and you are right revenge on our part is not the right option and will make it worse. so we both have valid points init :p

    cant beat a thursday night ruck :lol:
  18. Smog

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    have we argued before? you must just catch me at that time of the month! :lol:

    i think its how you interpret "revenge"... i saw it as a statement of why it happened, but it could also be a reply to the thread title... either way its a side issue in the scheme of things! Night sweetpea! :love:
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    Experts in Islamic terrorism have pointed out that there are several suspicious mistakes in the statement posted accepting responsibility for the attack.

    Firstly, noone has heard of the group claiming responsibility before, they seem to have come from nowhere. This is not usually the case.

    Secondly, there are inaccuracies and mistakes in the statement, most notably in the quoting of the Koran. As several Islamist leaders have pointed out, fundamentalists and radicals tend to quote verses in painstakingly accurate detail without making any mistakes....

    Don't remember putting BNP in there juski :p but you're right, it could have been anyone...
  20. Freddy Flintoff

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    I think the best thing we can do is show that we can carry on with our everyday lives and show that this kinda shit cant affect us, I we can take 30 years of IRA bombings and getiing bomed to fuck by the Germans in WW2 we can certainly get over this and NOT live in panic and fear, The british peopl ewill not surrender to this terrorists, we shall stand and be counted and they shall NEVER succeed

    Revenge is not really an option as these people are prob british and defo do not coem from afganistan or iraq

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